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Why was Goku so confident?
Topic Started: Jun 16 2016, 03:43 PM (7,607 Views)
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When SS3 Goku was fighting against Super Buutenks Buu had suddenly ran out of time and reduced down to Buu Piccolo. Now most of us and I too think that Super Buu is far stronger than Goku. But he even powered down to his base form and stood there confidently. Now is it because Goku thought he could overpower Buu somehow or was he planning on having Gohan finish the job since he knew Gohan was much stronger. It would make sense since he powered down so he could be just stepping out of the way. Then there's the part in absorbing. Buu original absorbed Gotenks and left Gohan alone so that he could fight someone even though Buu completely outclassed Gohan. But in this case Buu absorbed Gohan instead of Goku. Was it simply because his blob thing was closest to Gohan or did he think Goku was now the strongest? Because if he wanted to continue fighting someone for real then he would've absorbed Goku. Perhaps Goku simply wouldn't have given him enough power. There's also the other part where Buu knew Goku was planning on fusing with someone and taking Gohan out would reduce any chance of a strong fusion.

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Goku was definitely planning on Gohan fighting. Even with the Anime logic, base Goku shouldn't be strong enough to fight Super Boo. If Goku had planned to fight he would have never reverted back. Also, while the English dub has Goku say "You don't plan to fight me like that", the original version (and English manga) have Goku say "Gohan can handle you now".

And Boo absorbing even SSj3 Goku wouldn't have given him enough power to match Ultimate Gohan.
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Well the Buutenks fight was filler, so let's get that out of the way. But if it was canon, I don't think it was more Goku being confident, but more Buutenks messing with him cause he was bored. He just got finish mopping the floor with Gohan and need some form of entertainment.

Now for the absorption. Gohan was the closest individual. Not to mention Buu's goal somehow went from causing destruction and chaos to becoming the strongest and out of Goku and Gohan, Gohan was the strongest.
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Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
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The fight with Buutenks was filler, a common reason as to why people believe Ssj3 Goku could come close to matching Mystic Gohan. I'm going with Clearin, Goku said that Gohan could beat him in the manga, but he himself wouldn't have stood a chance.
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Pyrus
Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
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Jun 17 2016, 06:25 AM
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Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
With Gohan he wanted someone to test his new power.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Goku didn't even want to fight Super Boo without fusion. You're seriously going to try and bring up this nonsense of Goku being stronger than Gohan again?

Give me a goddamn break already.
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Jun 17 2016, 06:25 AM
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Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
Boo did indeed tell Gohan that having power is pointless if there's no one to fight, but the difference is absorbing Gotenks would still have allowed Boo to beat Gohan. Absorbing Goku would not have allowed Boo to beat Gohan.

Boo would rather have a bunch of power and no one to fight than die.
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Clearin
Jun 17 2016, 10:58 AM
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Jun 17 2016, 06:25 AM
Pyrus
Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
Boo did indeed tell Gohan that having power is pointless if there's no one to fight, but the difference is absorbing Gotenks would still have allowed Boo to beat Gohan. Absorbing Goku would not have allowed Boo to beat Gohan.

Boo would rather have a bunch of power and no one to fight than die.
Considering Goku was stronger than Gohan AND Gotenks, I don't know why he wouldn't have taken Goku.
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KidBuu55
Jun 17 2016, 12:38 PM
Clearin
Jun 17 2016, 10:58 AM
KidBuu55
Jun 17 2016, 06:25 AM
Pyrus
Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
Boo did indeed tell Gohan that having power is pointless if there's no one to fight, but the difference is absorbing Gotenks would still have allowed Boo to beat Gohan. Absorbing Goku would not have allowed Boo to beat Gohan.

Boo would rather have a bunch of power and no one to fight than die.
Considering Goku was stronger than Gohan AND Gotenks, I don't know why he wouldn't have taken Goku.
Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P10.4-5
Goku: “Hahha—ah! Piccolo’s coming out strong now! Looks like the Fused squirts have returned to normal! You ran out of time! Tooo—oo bad! Your power’s fallen a whole lot. Cheh…I’m a little disappointed. This way, Gohan will be able to beat you even on his own…”
Note: presumably be saying that "the Fused squirts have returned to normal", Goku means that Gotenks has split back up into Goten and Trunks, not merely that Gotenks' reverted from Super Saiyan 3 to regular Gotenks. At the very least, Goten and Trunks are separate by the time Goku and Vegeta find them inside of Boo.

''I could defeat you easily right now, considering that I'm stronger than Gohan, but I'll leave beating you to Gohan.''

Goku's 'plan' to leave the protection of Earth to the next generation has already failed, so why doesn't he reveal his true power and just take Boo out now? It's obvious that Gohan has the power to, it's not like killing Boo himself is gonna awaken some kind of desire to protect the Earth.
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Jun 17 2016, 12:48 PM
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Jun 17 2016, 12:38 PM
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Jun 17 2016, 10:58 AM
KidBuu55
Jun 17 2016, 06:25 AM
Pyrus
Jun 16 2016, 04:43 PM
Boo just wanted to be the absolute strongest. It was as good a time as any to absorb Gohan.
This is wrong, he actually tells Gohan the opposite - implying that Gohan was stronger than Gotenks, and Goku stronger than Gohan.
Boo did indeed tell Gohan that having power is pointless if there's no one to fight, but the difference is absorbing Gotenks would still have allowed Boo to beat Gohan. Absorbing Goku would not have allowed Boo to beat Gohan.

Boo would rather have a bunch of power and no one to fight than die.
Considering Goku was stronger than Gohan AND Gotenks, I don't know why he wouldn't have taken Goku.
Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P10.4-5
Goku: “Hahha—ah! Piccolo’s coming out strong now! Looks like the Fused squirts have returned to normal! You ran out of time! Tooo—oo bad! Your power’s fallen a whole lot. Cheh…I’m a little disappointed. This way, Gohan will be able to beat you even on his own…”
Note: presumably be saying that "the Fused squirts have returned to normal", Goku means that Gotenks has split back up into Goten and Trunks, not merely that Gotenks' reverted from Super Saiyan 3 to regular Gotenks. At the very least, Goten and Trunks are separate by the time Goku and Vegeta find them inside of Boo.

''I could defeat you easily right now, considering that I'm stronger than Gohan, but I'll leave beating you to Gohan.''

Goku's 'plan' to leave the protection of Earth to the next generation has already failed, so why doesn't he reveal his true power and just take Boo out now? It's obvious that Gohan has the power to, it's not like killing Boo himself is gonna awaken some kind of desire to protect the Earth.
It's because it's Gohan's fight, and up until Kid Buu appears, Goku thinks it's someone else job to protect Earth.
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Jun 17 2016, 12:48 PM


Goku's 'plan' to leave the protection of Earth to the next generation has already failed, so why doesn't he reveal his true power and just take Boo out now? It's obvious that Gohan has the power to, it's not like killing Boo himself is gonna awaken some kind of desire to protect the Earth.
Didn't you know? Goku's Saiyan blood drives him to fight strong opponents. Someone like Booccolo is hardly worth his time, so he leaves the pink blob to Ultimate Gohan, another weakling by comparison.

All hail SSJ3 Goku.
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Jun 17 2016, 12:52 PM
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Jun 17 2016, 12:48 PM


Goku's 'plan' to leave the protection of Earth to the next generation has already failed, so why doesn't he reveal his true power and just take Boo out now? It's obvious that Gohan has the power to, it's not like killing Boo himself is gonna awaken some kind of desire to protect the Earth.
Didn't you know? Goku's Saiyan blood drives him to fight strong opponents. Someone like Booccolo is hardly worth his time, so he leaves the pink blob to Ultimate Gohan, another weakling by comparison.

All hail SSJ3 Goku.
Hey, that's one explanation. Glad we are all on the same page though.
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Base Goku < Freeza.

SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan, SSJ3 Gotenks, and Super Boo.

Never forget.
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